Access around Thirlmere reservoir

[CathM]

Surely it's a pedestrian then? It's got twice as many legs as we have!

[VinceLedge]

If horses can get through, what is to stop walkers and cyclists (apart from a sign)?

[thirdcrank]

The sign alerts them to the existence of the TRO which will specify the penalties for contravening the TRO.

[grufty]

Will horses be required to wear hard hats and safety boots /hooves?

[Philip Benstead]

https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/2400 ... mere-road/

[Traction_man]

this is the answer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-VRw0t2Xms

[thirdcrank]

I wonder if campaigners would be on stronger ground if they petioned for eg a properly enforced 20mph limit on the A591 during the period when vulnerable road users are prohibited from using the road where the works are planned.

(I don't bother with unexplained links to youtube etc)

[Traction_man]

(I don't bother with unexplained links to youtube etc)

Inventor Dad Turns Bike Into A Horse
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Rodger Cleye uses his engineering skills to build unusual bicycles, like a horse bike and skeleton tandem bike. Building these mobile creations are a way for him to stay fit and have fun. He wants people to realize that there is a lot of joy and excitement in engineering.

[thirdcrank]

I'm no expert on rights of way etc., but it seems to me that in what might be called the court of common sense, banning people from using a road where they are at danger from falling rocks is a "no brainer." The fact that the means the authorities have chosen - making a TRO - has the anomaly of not banning people riding horses doesn't change the underlying logic.

However, to divert people from one alleged danger to another ie using an A road without suitable safety provision seems impossible to justify. A suitable speed limit (with proper enforcement) seems appropriate and in that court of common sense, another "no brainer."

I fancy that if that course were to be adopted, pressure from road transport interests etc., would get things sorted much more quickly

[grufty]

I'm no expert on rights of way etc., but it seems to me that in what might be called the court of common sense, banning people from using a road where they are at danger from falling rocks is a "no brainer." The fact that the means the authorities have chosen - making a TRO - has the anomaly of not banning people riding horses doesn't change the underlying logic.

However, to divert people from one alleged danger to another ie using an A road without suitable safety provision seems impossible to justify. A suitable speed limit (with proper enforcement) seems appropriate and in that court of common sense, another "no brainer."

I fancy that if that course were to be adopted, pressure from road transport interests etc., would get things sorted much more quickly

In my objection to the local council, I did, perhaps a little tongue in cheek,suggest a 20mph limit for that stretch of road. After the road was closed as a consequence of storm Desmond, the speed limit was reduced from 50mph to 40mph.
Perhaps closing one carriageway for the use of vulnerable users , and operating a traffic light system on the other might be an option?

[thirdcrank]

In my objection to the local council, I did, perhaps a little tongue in cheek,suggest a 20mph limit for that stretch of road. After the road was closed as a consequence of storm Desmond, the speed limit was reduced from 50mph to 40mph.
Perhaps closing one carriageway for the use of vulnerable users , and operating a traffic light system on the other might be an option?

Perhaps the "tongue in cheek" bit was a fundamental error as it would allow the authorties to treat it as flippant, which is a pity because it saves them having to think about it.

[Traction_man]

on Singletrack forum someone has posted about an alternative off-road option the runs to the east of the main road, more or less parallel to it, I have plotted it here on BRouter:

[CathM]

Yes, I've ridden that track once, to avoid the main road. It's an enjoyable off-road track for recreational cycling if you're prepared, but hard work (for me, at least!) with a fully laden tourer. It's not a route you'd use for general travel.

[thirdcrank]

On a general campaigning point, IME mentioning any alternative routes will be shamelessly used by those sponsoring the closure as demonstrating that alternative provision is unnecessary

[Traction_man]

On a general campaigning point, IME mentioning any alternative routes will be shamelessly used by those sponsoring the closure as demonstrating that alternative provision is unnecessary

from what @CathM says above, it's not exactly a replacement to what has been lost, but simply a possibility avoiding the road that someone might find useful