Mick F wrote:Some people are idiots, but not people generally.
Some people are idiots all of the time
All people are idiots some of the time
But all people are not idiots all of the time
Mick F wrote:Some people are idiots, but not people generally.
orangebiker wrote:On a point of economics, can anyone explain how the GDP/car thing works?
Using cars and paying for petrol/repairs etc is just one way of spending money that people already have. If they didn't drive a car they would presumably spend it on something else (eg. a bigger house/better food/more bikes....).
Or do you think that if people didn't spend money on cars they would save it up and therefore not be spending it at all?
mrjemm wrote:By making cars utilitarian devices with minimal comfort and variation between versions, and taking control out of the hands of the occupant, car use will likely diminish radically, I suspect. They are of course very useful, but that should be their extent. There should be a limited or even no element of pleasure in the use of them, and this use should be not easy to abuse- i.e. all are capable of the same, restricted, performance...
orangebiker wrote:On a point of economics, can anyone explain how the GDP/car thing works?
Using cars and paying for petrol/repairs etc is just one way of spending money that people already have. If they didn't drive a car they would presumably spend it on something else (eg. a bigger house/better food/more bikes....).
Or do you think that if people didn't spend money on cars they would save it up and therefore not be spending it at all?
Mark1978 wrote:The 'road' below is about as wide as a single track road but is easily wide enough for two way cycling with room to spare.
andrewk wrote:reohn2 wrote:The key to this is curbing motor traffic speed and parking(for all but the infirm)
This is beyond ludditeism!
No it doesn't.Mistik-ka wrote:Mark1978 wrote:The 'road' below is about as wide as a single track road but is easily wide enough for two way cycling with room to spare.
Blimey, that looks like heaven!
andrewk wrote:This is beyond ludditeism!
Much as I am pro cycling I firmly oppose the anti car brigade, as does the majority of the population.
To successfully promote cycling one has to win over the public, NOT antagonise them....a left wing bearded weirdos' vision of a cycling nirvana predicated on banning or severely restricting car use is sure to garner almost universal opposition and thus backfire.
Get real! Cycling has to grow and prosper alongside private motor transport, the two aren't mutually exclusive.
Given the general belief that costly infrastructure is required for cycling to grow and prosper the importance of carrying public opinion and thus politicians with one is paramount.