Undertaken - on the pavement...

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This morning I was undertaken by a car which took to the pavement to pass (just) me before a junction where our ways easily part, and less than a couple of hundred yards before it all turns dual carriageway anyway...

Stupid cagebound idiot
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Once when I was in Brighton I was walking along and there was an old guy slowly crossing the road.
A 4x4 took advantage of the driveway ramps to pass him on the pavement without slowing down (I'd estimate 35mph ish) - admittedly it only put two wheels on the pavement and left two on the road...
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Presumably just 2 wheels on the pavement. Not an uncommon occurrence if the vehicle in front is turning right. :roll:
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Not *that* close to a junction - I was still accelerating down the hill
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It never fails to amaze me what drivers will justify in their minds to save what in the vast majority of cases is a handful of seconds.Overtaking on a blind bend being the worst case, and all too frequent IME.
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This is the approach to the Beehive Roundabout in Horwich from the north. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.58517 ... !2e0?hl=en
It's a single lane road and doesn't split into two lanes until waaaaaay further up near the actual roundabout and miraculously, still leaves the cycle lane intact.
I see this kind of selfish mayhem all too often. It got so bad one day that a driver in a silver estate overtook myself and 2 following cyclists only to be held up by other traffic. His answer was to put two wheels on the pavement and undertake everyone else. He didn't take into account the great big dumpster truck further on and got stuck behind it, blocking our cycle lane. It took a few minutes to get moving again.
Oddly enough, unlike the many motorists out there, we didn't honk our horns, hurl abuse at him or use our bikes to intimidate him. We waited patiently. :)
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Yep, had that before - approaching a red light so easing off, car behind mounted pavement to undertake - then stopped at red light (which turned green and I overtook whilst the driver was finding first gear :lol: ),
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Oh i lurve the Beehive as a motorist and as a cyclist, i often position my van to prevent undertaking vehicles at the point where the road has not yet split into two lanes, but vehicles do it anyway blocking the cycle lane..... :twisted: :lol:
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It's a depressingly frequent bit of bad driving on the A10 cycleway near me. On the narrower sections, I keep an eye on the road ahead and prepare to follow (and shout at, usually, because they apparently haven't shoulder-checked and seen me before pulling across) any vehicles that drive up the kerb to get around a right-turning vehicle ahead. There's a brambly open drain next to the cycleway opposite two turnings which I don't want to inspect IYSWIM.

The number of black tyre marks skidding along the cycleway and the number of collisions at the junctions where motorists do it (sometimes scattering glass and car parts across the cycleway) suggests that a scary number still try even when they can't fit past. It seems like an easy way to spot reckless drivers so I wish the police would camp out at the worst places for it - or preferably, I wish the highway authority would put a few posts in the kerb-line opposite one turning to protect walkers and riders.
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On my cycle commute home last friday evening I was overtaken by a man driving a Peugeot 206 convertible whilst I had my right arm outstretched and filtered into a right turn lane coming up to a junction. I had checked that it was safe to carry out the manoeuvre but I hadn't counted on this driver accellerating 100 metres before a red stop light. The overtaking vehicle then swerved back into the 'straight on lane' whilst trying to comply with the red traffic lights. I resisted the urge to tap on his window as I pulled up at the traffic lights alongside him but I made a mental note of the registration number.

Crass stupidity and idiotic impatience!
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But you were cycling! Of course he had to get to the red light before you! You'd have held him up otherwise, whilst RLJing ('cos all cyclists do you know). :lol:
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What about this for undertaking/overtaking madness?

It shows a car overtaking a truck after undertaking a vehicle which was already in the process of overtaking the truck. Not a bicycle in sight, fortunately.

:shock:
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LollyKat wrote:What about this for undertaking/overtaking madness?

It shows a car overtaking a truck after undertaking a vehicle which was already in the process of overtaking the truck. Not a bicycle in sight, fortunately.

:shock:

:shock:
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LollyKat wrote:What about this for undertaking/overtaking madness?

It shows a car overtaking a truck after undertaking a vehicle which was already in the process of overtaking the truck. Not a bicycle in sight, fortunately.

:shock:



What I love is that the manoeuvre isn't labelled dangerous but "dangerous".

The BBC really are struggling to say anything nowadays. I seem to recall that they said something along the lines of "Philae landed on the so called comet"
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LollyKat wrote:What about this for undertaking/overtaking madness?

It shows a car overtaking a truck after undertaking a vehicle which was already in the process of overtaking the truck. Not a bicycle in sight, fortunately.

:shock:


They've charged the driver - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-n ... d-30112988 . Very strong and dangerous car culture amongst the youths in the NE of Scotland, although it's not the only place. Due to the affluence in the area, they (or bank of mum and dad) can afford to buy AND insure a car with a decent engine. :shock:
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