reohn2 wrote:So your driving your bus along in the bus lane and there's a turning off to the left(like the video)would you go up the inside of the Saab that's indicating to turn left?
Now reverse bus Saab positions and you're driving your Saab.
The onus IMO is on the driver of the undertaking vehicle to look after himself,yes the left turning driver should check his nearside but we all know what can and does happen on the road.
Except the cyclist isn't undertaking, therein lies the problem of your skewed viewpoint, he is in his own cycle specific lane.
Fagan V (1) Jeffers (2) MIB (2005), the Court found that a motorist had to proceed with utmost care and not cross the carriageway until he had put himself in a position where he was satisfied that no traffic was likely to come up on the inside of the opposing carriageway.
That the HC states in various places relating directly to motorised vehicles with direction to use mirrors (shoulder check if need be) when changing lanes, ensuring the lane is clear, taking care of vulnerable road users when turning left gives a very clear indication that the responsibility is by far with that of the motorist.
We don't even know for sure how clear the indicator was to the cyclist (clear lens type in daytime is VERY difficult to see at times) or how much time he had to see and digest/process that, that you don't/wouldn't expect someone to just turn across you without actually looking is pretty obvious in ANY road situation & applies here absolutely.
To suggest that vehicles can just turn across lanes without taking responsibility is absurd.
AND your own words back in 2008
reohn2 wrote:I would say the onus is on the the car driver as he was entering your lane,facing you as I understand it, you have right of way in your own lane.After all what is a broken line if not denoting a cycle lane he (from your description of the RTA)cut across your lane so surely he is in the wrong unless you indicated to him that he could go before you. A broken line means give way.