AndyBSG wrote:Not really looking for pipe dream fantasies such as fully segregated cycle lanes on all conceivable routes
Why not? That's not beyond the realms of possibility at all. Obviously you can't have them on *all* routes, that would be silly, but the majority of non-motorway main roads could have a segregated path. They manage it in NL.
But they don't, to the extent that people in the UK seem to think they do. There are segregated paths along some main routes in the Netherlands, especially leading into Amsterdam and the surrounding towns. But in other places, the cycle routes take completely different routes, using farm tracks, canal paths or converted lanes. In many rural areas, especially if there is only a short distance between villages, there aren't actually any segregated alternatives. They just reduce the speed limits on one or more of the roads. One road is treated as the main route, while another is kept quiet, so that it is attractive as a cycle route. I have been in rural areas in the Netherlands where there isn't a big difference between Dutch and British infrastructure. The differences lie in speed limits, junction design, and sign posting, rather than where cyclists ride. The same goes for Denmark. The majority of the miles (kilometres?
) I have cycled in Denmark have been on country lanes, rather than segregated paths. It's just that I took quiet routes, sign posted for cyclists, rather than the main roads.
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