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Re: The War on Britain's Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 4:13pm
by ChrisPeck
FWIW, Roger has blogged at length on this, explaining the background to our involvement and his impressions of the film.

Re: The War on Britain's Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 4:48pm
by Simon L6
it's telly, Chris. Just telly. Not the repository of hopes and fears, not a means of social advancement. Take a look at Strictly. There's kind of a man/woman thing going on there. It's, how can I put this, not exactly up-to-date with the gender politics thing. Look at any drama series and mentally take the clothes off all the men and women and then weigh said clothes - my guess is that the men will be wearing four or five times by weight what the women are wearing. And ,far from being an example to the others, the BBC is close on being the worst. Look at the way Entwistle was appointed, and note, please, that he sacked the woman candidate for his job the next day, and then remember Patten saying that they had to get 'the best man for the job'. Look at the BBC breakfast show and wonder at the balance between the male presenter and the female presenter. It is as if the last forty years hasn't happened. If the show does men and not women it's because television doesn't see women as anything other than sex objects. With respect, that's a bigger thing than a programme about cycling. Feel free to complain about it, but please don't be surprised.

http://argonon.com/waronbritainsroadsblog/ FWIW

Re: The War on Britain's Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 5:16pm
by reohn2
Simon
It's the effect it'll have that's the worrying thing.The moron's who'll switch off the telly after watching it and wake up tomorrow morning with an "agenda" to further pollute their already misaligned views,that's what concerns me :?

Re: The War on Britain's Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 5:24pm
by Simon L6
I take your point, R2, but I'll wait until I see the fillum.

I think the change in driving culture in London has been so much for the better than I would have thought possible, that I reckon that the effect of any bit of 'culture', however minor, would vary from place to place.

Re: The War on Britain's Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 7:11pm
by PaulCumbria
Living Streets, the esteemed pro-walking campaigning charity, has offered opinion on this programme - what do you think?
http://www.livingstreets.org.uk/blog-po ... he-streets

Re: The War on Britain's Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 7:12pm
by thirdcrank
Simon L6

I still can't fathom why you are spending so much of your valuable, sharing these insights into the mediocrity of the television industry. :? (It's not as though you've nothing better to do with your time, unlike li'll 'ole me. :oops: )

Re: The War on Britain's Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 7:13pm
by phil parker
Well, I've just found out through the film company that the filming a friend and I did for the program earlier this year will not be shown this evening - probably not contentious enough!

No doubt they'll be showing some of my mate's YouTube clips though as he seems to attract his own private war against some drivers in urban Manchester!

I'll be working this evening so I have my TiVo box set to record!

The war on Britains Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 9:08pm
by timmitchell
First thoughts...

Anyone who spits in someone elses face is just horrible.
All road users can be <inappropriate term removed>

Its only 21.07 so I reserve the right to update

Re: The war on Britains Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 9:23pm
by Mark1978
That first cyclist was a [rude word removed]. But the taxi driver was a [rude word removed].

Re: The war on Britains Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 9:27pm
by Mark1978
Too much focus on death "this was her bedroom" etc

Re: The War on Britain's Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 9:55pm
by Mark1978
Woman ped on off road cycle shared use path steps to the side while cyclist is passing. Who is at fault. I say the ped. Wife says the cyclist.

Re: The War on Britain's Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 10:05pm
by kwackers
Mark1978 wrote:Woman ped on off road cycle shared use path steps to the side while cyclist is passing. Who is at fault. I say the ped. Wife says the cyclist.

Definitely the cyclist.
Slow down, pass with care. We'd expect if of cars, why shouldn't peds expect the same of us?

Re: The War on Britain's Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 10:06pm
by Whippet
Better than i was expecting. Not just sensationalist, explained the vulnerability of cyclists and also the difficulties of different road users sharing the same space. I think the average car driver would probably end up more sympathetic to cyclists if they watched the whole thing.

Re: The War on Britain's Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 10:08pm
by gentlegreen
Mark1978 wrote:Woman ped on off road cycle shared use path steps to the side while cyclist is passing. Who is at fault. I say the ped. Wife says the cyclist.

Taypet21 got it very wrong there.
They forgot to mention it was an electric bike - though I can hit 18mph up there on a good day after a 15 mile warm-up- though it's usually 7PM and with fewer people about.
(In fact I have a video of me overtaking a surprised electric cyclist there)
They've made that unofficial access point official now.

Re: The War on Britain's Roads

Posted: 5 Dec 2012, 10:17pm
by reohn2
kwackers wrote:
Mark1978 wrote:Woman ped on off road cycle shared use path steps to the side while cyclist is passing. Who is at fault. I say the ped. Wife says the cyclist.

Definitely the cyclist.
Slow down, pass with care. We'd expect if of cars, why shouldn't peds expect the same of us?

Spot on!
I would never ride at that speed with pedestrians about on a shared use path.