Kick stand
Kick stand
What are our views on after market kick stands?
I've one that clamps onto the chain stays just behind the BB*. It works fine, but have read various reports that such a beast can damage the frame due to it putting a twisting force through the tubes at an angle that they are not designed for....especially when the bike is loaded up with full touring kit.
*I've also seen stands that clamp near the rear hub but these won't work for me as my trailer hitch needs to go there.
I've one that clamps onto the chain stays just behind the BB*. It works fine, but have read various reports that such a beast can damage the frame due to it putting a twisting force through the tubes at an angle that they are not designed for....especially when the bike is loaded up with full touring kit.
*I've also seen stands that clamp near the rear hub but these won't work for me as my trailer hitch needs to go there.
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not on a lightweight frame please, for the reasons described.
They pretty well have to squash the chainstays a little to be fitted and to stay put without loosening. Very few quality tubesets have chainstays much over 1.2mm wall thickness, whereas 'gas pipe' frames can be 1.6mm in this area.
If you must have one of this type (there are alternatives), a braze-on bracket seems like a good idea.
[edit; I wonder if it is possible to combine the trailer hitch into the bracket for the hub-mounted type of stand?]
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They pretty well have to squash the chainstays a little to be fitted and to stay put without loosening. Very few quality tubesets have chainstays much over 1.2mm wall thickness, whereas 'gas pipe' frames can be 1.6mm in this area.
If you must have one of this type (there are alternatives), a braze-on bracket seems like a good idea.
[edit; I wonder if it is possible to combine the trailer hitch into the bracket for the hub-mounted type of stand?]
cheers
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Or just put the kick stand on the other side?
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Most stands and hitches have to fit on the left hand side.
They can be combined though. (May need a lottery win to afford it)
https://www.weber-products.de/kupplungen/index.html
as recommended by CJ.
They can be combined though. (May need a lottery win to afford it)
https://www.weber-products.de/kupplungen/index.html
as recommended by CJ.
Yma o Hyd
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Have we got time for another cuppa?
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Use a click-stand instead?
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I have one like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MTB-Road-Bike ... 2572de6595
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MTB-Road-Bike ... 2572de6595
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[XAP]Bob wrote:Or just put the kick stand on the other side?
Would probably get in the way of the mech and chain.
Yes, I think that I am persuaded not to bother. Although I'm sure that I could mount it without squeezing the stays, the worry about damaging it would be more trouble than it's worth. My frame is quite chunky (Dawes OneDown) but you know know where they have put in weight saving measures (after all, you'd think that the LHT was pretty bomb proof).
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I have a Hebie Bipod Stand 605 NL and a retro fit stand plate 699 40 fitted to my Surly Long Haul Trucker. Pretty happy with it. It is not perfect but for me beats not having one.
Andrew
Andrew
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I had a Pletscher on the Vantage pretty much since new (7-8 months) and the only problem I ever had was the darn thing toppling over. Unless the surface you park on is pretty much dead level, theres a risk of your bike going sideways.
I've since taken mine off and stuck it on my daughters bike who thinks its cool and yet manages to forget its there and drops the bike on its side when we stop for sweeties and so on.
Basically, it got on my nerves as I could never find anywhere level enough or with such a gradient that the bike would stay upright. Theres always something to lean your bike on
I've since taken mine off and stuck it on my daughters bike who thinks its cool and yet manages to forget its there and drops the bike on its side when we stop for sweeties and so on.
Basically, it got on my nerves as I could never find anywhere level enough or with such a gradient that the bike would stay upright. Theres always something to lean your bike on
Bill
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IrishBill76 wrote:I had a Pletscher on the Vantage pretty much since new (7-8 months) and the only problem I ever had was the darn thing toppling over. Unless the surface you park on is pretty much dead level, theres a risk of your bike going sideways.
Basically, it got on my nerves as I could never find anywhere level enough or with such a gradient that the bike would stay upright.
Sorry to disagree, but I love my Pletscher kickstand! It was easily the best 'modification' I made to my bike before my first tour. A slope the wrong way would be an issue, I agree, but I found that level or a slight decline (towards nearside, as it were) was fine. (And you get that slight decline most places due to the camber of the road.) On tour I had rear panniers weighing about a stone each (6.5Kg-ish). And the bike is 16.5Kg unladen.
There are different models from Pletscher though... [Edited to add - mine's a Pletscher Zoom]
IrishBill76 wrote:Theres always something to lean your bike on
Actually, no there isn't, not in the Outer Hebrides
No damage to the chainstay or seatstay so far - here's how it's fixed (mine is too dirty to photograph )
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/ ... d-09-34106
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Beware the two-legged variety or even the single leg ones that clamp around the seatstays behind the BB. It's altogether too easy to crush the chainstays whilst trying to tighten the clamp. Spoken from experience.
Mind you I didn't find out until after I'd trashed the rest of the frame in a pothole. I really should do more cleaning and maintenance.
Mind you I didn't find out until after I'd trashed the rest of the frame in a pothole. I really should do more cleaning and maintenance.
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Si wrote:What are our views on after market kick stands?
I've one that clamps onto the chain stays just behind the BB*. It works fine, but have read various reports that such a beast can damage the frame due to it putting a twisting force through the tubes at an angle that they are not designed for....especially when the bike is loaded up with full touring kit.
This summer I saw a number of people with a second kick stand attached to the front pannier rack - which probably adds a fair bit of stability and peace of mind.
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If you like the idea of the Click Stand, then a fishing bank stick with a y-piece end does the job just as well. You can get telescopic banksticks which are ideal and cost about a fiver from tackle shops.
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