Jonty wrote:A few quick points.
As Gaz says if some members gave discretion to the chair through the proxy vote mechanism when the issue was last voted upon, that was their choice. This is a perfectly valid way to proceed. To suggest that the members involved didn't know what they were doing is judgemental and demeaning. And to suggest that the process was flawed because of this is wrong and misleading.
Second, the ballot paper contained in the Cycle magazine is perfectly clear to anyone who can read. It is not misleading in anyway whatsoever. To suggest otherwise is wrong and misleading.
Third, I have been very impressed by people coming back and answering my questions. I thank all concerned.
Finally, in a previous life among my responsibilities was economic development and employment initiatives for a large local authority. This involved joint working with charities and companies limited by guarantee; in fact I was a director of 2 of them.
In all my professional life I have never come across so much information being made readily available to members to help to inform them to make an intelligent decision as in this case. Nor have I ever had the opportunity to be part of an on-going discussion such as the one taking place on a forum.
Compared with many of the bodies I've had dealings with, the CTC is a paragon of transparency, openness and responsiveness.
jonty
Well that ought to silence anybody who doesnt agree with you after all who wants to be called "judgemental and demeaning"?
In other organisations I have given my proxy vote and never bothered to find out how they used it. So I dont have any problem with the possibility that up to 465 out of 60,000 people did exactly that. Even if it makes me, by your decree, 'judgemental and demeaning'.
Is an election where .75% of the membership didnt correctly understand the procedure that unthinkable?
Trawling this area of the forum will show lots of concerns raised about this very issue before the vote.
465 people gave a blank proxy to the Chairman it was their vote and they could do with it as they like and it still counts. Yet I think that a good many of them may not have known or cared how it was cast. Somewhere around 57,000 threw theirs in the bin, that was without a doubt how the majority of the membership voted.
This time will be different as there is a Gore jacket to vote for.