yet another touring bike

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yet another touring bike

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http://salsacycles.com/culture/introducing_marrakesh

might raise a few eyebrows in the 26inch vs 700c debate as they appear to only offer 700 (in all frame sizes) but yet emphasise the bike's global pretensions. Also interesting the separate drop bar and flat bar versions.
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22camels wrote:http://salsacycles.com/culture/introducing_marrakesh

might raise a few eyebrows in the 26inch vs 700c debate as they appear to only offer 700 (in all frame sizes) but yet emphasise the bike's global pretensions. Also interesting the separate drop bar and flat bar versions.


and no mudguards, sorry fenders
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I like the look of it but why, when they've made the decision to fit disc brakes, do they fit something cruddy like bb7's? With bar end shifters surely hydraulics are an option (as per trek 920) without recourse to expensive hydraulic brifters?
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Wonder if this is Salsa'a attempt to chase the Surly DT? My daughter likes the blue and green though!
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Interesting that it's actually 9 speed.
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why, when they've made the decision to fit disc brakes, do they fit something cruddy like bb7's?


Because a lot of people like them, offering simplicity, reliability and braking ability that is considered good in the broad spectrum of braking that is available.
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mercalia wrote: and no mudguards, sorry fenders


But it has the lugs for them, and specifically the tyre clearance is mentioned. Loads of US tourers don't use guards. Bearing in mind the climate it's understandable.
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beardy wrote:
why, when they've made the decision to fit disc brakes, do they fit something cruddy like bb7's?


Because a lot of people like them, offering simplicity, reliability and braking ability that is considered good in the broad spectrum of braking that is available.


+1 I'm delighted with mine (on 2 bikes) And for a numpty like me I can manage servicing them...b
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Wonder if its a stiffer frame than the Vaya? The forks look like they have measles…

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Seat tube angle up to 75 deg, in-line seatpost and B17.......I bet R2 won't be swapping his Vaya........
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Heltor Chasca wrote:
beardy wrote:
why, when they've made the decision to fit disc brakes, do they fit something cruddy like bb7's?


Because a lot of people like them, offering simplicity, reliability and braking ability that is considered good in the broad spectrum of braking that is available.


+1 I'm delighted with mine (on 2 bikes) And for a numpty like me I can manage servicing them...b

But ime that's the beauty of hydraulics, you don't need to service them just bung in new pads from time to time?
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Heltor Chasca wrote:Wonder if this is Salsa'a attempt to chase the Surly DT? My daughter likes the blue and green though!


Both brands are owned by the same company. I guess it's just populating another perceived niche in the market. For a world tour bike the rack looks a bit light. 15kg max load.
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irc wrote:
Heltor Chasca wrote:Wonder if this is Salsa'a attempt to chase the Surly DT? My daughter likes the blue and green though!


Both brands are owned by the same company. I guess it's just populating another perceived niche in the market. For a world tour bike the rack looks a bit light. 15kg max load.


Thank irc. Fascinating. There seems something ok with dominating the World with bikes [emoji48]
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Was looking at this a couple of days ago and almost posted about it.

Such an ugly bike.

And being a lover of my 2nd Vaya, that's a real shame. And then they go and make another big nasty mistake.

Alternators. :evil: Oh gawd, they are the no 1 thing that I don't love about my bike. I really really dislike them. Why? What is the point? How more ridiculous an idea could a designer have? And that is why it is using that Wanderlust rack. Because fitting a rack is a pain in the bum, and uses the same bolt that is also the alternator pivot bolt, and has to use a lump of spacer both sides to get past the 'shroud' affair covering the bolt. Not big, not clever. (I got over that by getting proper mounts brazed on top :D ).

I really dislike the upside down looking headtube, which I am guessing is compensating for the less sloping toptube. Is this a concession to folk who don't like those? And gusset that makes it look like an ally bike, ewww. :? Or is it just an odd shaped downtube? Can't tell, can't look too closely, it makes me feel queasy.

Actually, is that an oversized headtube? Looks odd too.

Interesting the frames are different for the different bar types. Have they been reading threads by Horizon? I am sure he's referred well about these lately.

Notice they've got the new Cowchipper. Another to contemplate in the handlebar thread going on, but of course, only in 31.8mm, boo.

All in all. I also will not be moving from Vaya to Marrakesh. No way Jose.
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mrjemm wrote:Alternators. :evil: Oh gawd, they are the no 1 thing that I don't love about my bike. I really really dislike them..


Had to look them up. Ugly aren't they! Why not just decide this is a geared bike and use normal dropouts. Or design it as a hub geared bike. For someone who is going to run gears it is just added weight and complexity. And ugly.

http://salsacycles.com/culture/reasons_ ... or_dropout
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