What bike would you suggest as a tourer and every day use

[mercalia]

2 bikes or a dog . hmm thats a tough one

[Slow Loris]

2 bikes or a dog . hmm thats a tough one

Perhaps not. Keep dog, ditch partner and kids, plenty of room for 2+ bikes and trailer

[Heltor Chasca]

2 bikes or a dog . hmm thats a tough one

Perhaps not. Keep dog, ditch partner and kids, plenty of room for 2+ bikes and trailer

Heh heh. I like it! [emoji48]

[Thistle]

2 bikes or a dog . hmm thats a tough one

Perhaps not. Keep dog, ditch partner and kids, plenty of room for 2+ bikes and trailer

Heh heh. I like it!

me too.

I got a bit carried away with dreams of a LHT, they are way out of my price range, even used. I think I will look out for an old 531st tourer on ebay and ride the heck out of it.

[Slow Loris]

I got a bit carried away with dreams of a LHT, they are way out of my price range, even used. I think I will look out for an old 531st tourer on ebay and ride the heck out of it.

Yup – Surly bikes seem to hold their value. I abandoned looking for one as I could never find one small enough for me second hand. It sounds like you don't need a small size so you should find a wider choice. Since you're in a low risk area for theft, I'd go for the best tourer you can afford and buy two good locks for shopping/commuting (make at least one a high rated D lock).

Do come back with a pic of your purchase .

[Thistle]

Since you're in a low risk area for theft, I'd go for the best tourer you can afford and buy two good locks for shopping/commuting (make at least one a high rated D lock).

Do come back with a pic of your purchase .

Good advice, thanks! I will post a pic when I find my bike.