"End of the line for Europe's iconic night trains?"

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Re: "End of the line for Europe's iconic night trains?"

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"Deutsche Bahn has postponed plans to operate through-trains to London, in a move that must be considered a set-back for international rail travel.
DB had been planning to operate high-speed ICE trains from Amsterdam and Frankfurt via Brussels and the Channel Tunnel into London St Pancras.
Indeed, after a delay of several years, DB finally secured permission last summer from the Tunnel authorities. Services were set to start after 2016."
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Re: "End of the line for Europe's iconic night trains?"

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It is a great shame more isn't made of night trains. The quickest way of getting from anywhere near London to where I live in SW France is Eurostar to Paris followed by a night train to our local station. It means you can do full day of work in London, have dinner in Paris, and be here in time for breakfast the next morning. No other mode of transport gets anywhere close to that, and if you take CO2 into account, it is of course even better. For cyclists, there's no need to bag/dismantle your bike, and the journey can end somewhere you'd want to ride, not some god forsaken airport.

Unfortunately it's more expensive than flying and almost no-one seems to know about it.
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Re: "End of the line for Europe's iconic night trains?"

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nirakaro wrote:"Deutsche Bahn has postponed plans to operate through-trains to London, in a move that must be considered a set-back for international rail travel.
DB had been planning to operate high-speed ICE trains from Amsterdam and Frankfurt via Brussels and the Channel Tunnel into London St Pancras.
Indeed, after a delay of several years, DB finally secured permission last summer from the Tunnel authorities. Services were set to start after 2016."
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And part of the reason why it won't apparently start until 2020 is that euro star plans to run direct trains to Amsterdam from late 2016. Could be good for many cyclists in southern England but for me the hull Europoort overnight crossing is best
As night trains had to be used by passengers with cyclists crossing borders for some inexplicable reason I don't see why db and others won't now permit cycles on day time international (and long distance) journeys
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