Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

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Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby travelling » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:46 am

I'm in the states at the momment and had thought about buying a thorn sherpa upon my return in december

However at the momment the surly long haul trucker in the states is selling for 630 pounds which makes it look a good buy especially now they do 26 inch wheels on the larger frames

The bike will be used for long distance heavy carrying touring

has anyone had any experience of the long haul trucker
I have the lightest bike in the world....then I put my fattest body in the world on it...the only pounds that have been lost are from my bank account
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Re: Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby Mattie » Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:07 am

Hello, no experience myself of either bikes but you may be able to ask Tara and Tyler on their website what they think of their Surly LHTs:

http://www.goingslowly.com/

Some great pictures too.
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Re: Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby CREPELLO » Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:29 am

I would confidently plumb for the LHT at that price whilst you can get it in the US. It seems to have constant praise heaped on it. Go for it!
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Re: Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby georgew » Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:10 am

Having built up a LHT I was impressed with the design of the frame which seemed to me very well designed for heavy touring. This impression was borne out by the owner who thinks it the most comfortable tourer he's ever owned. Again I understand that the wheels supplied are of very good quality and need no upgrading, so at that price quoted it represents a great bargain.
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Re: Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby simonhill » Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:32 am

Try posting on the Lonely Planet Thorn Tree 'on your bike' branch.

A few people there have SLHTs and I have never heard a bad word said about them.

Can you bring me one home, please.
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Re: Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby JT » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:02 pm

I've got an LHT and it's a great frame. My "good" bike is a carbon affair with ultra-light wheels but I still love riding the Surly even though it's heavy. I have only toured twice with it, both times with large (and full) rear panniers and camping gear on the rack, and it handled superbly even when I was honking up hills out of the saddle.
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Re: Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby pq » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:28 pm

Both are quite similar. They're well thought out heavy duty touring frames which are rather heavy.

The LHT sounds like its a good buy, but Thorn are much better for fit because they have more sizes.

I doubt you'd be disappointed with either.
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Re: Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby simonhill » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:26 pm

Forgot to mention:
Check with your airline if they will charge to bring it home - some are OK, some are not.

Don't forget you are liable to pay import duty on it. You may get away with it but a new(ish) bike off a US flight might well attract the Authorities attention (before someone mentions that they have brought their bike back without question, it is not the same as a beaten up well used bike coming back from other countries - the US is well knowna as a source of cheap bikes (and guitarss and golf clubs, etc)).

I still want one!
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Re: Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby Mattie » Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:28 pm

simonhill wrote:
Don't forget you are liable to pay import duty on it. You may get away with it but a new(ish) bike off a US flight might well attract the Authorities attention (before someone mentions that they have brought their bike back without question, it is not the same as a beaten up well used bike coming back from other countries - the US is well knowna as a source of cheap bikes (and guitarss and golf clubs, etc)).

I still want one!


A few years ago I imported a Marin Indian Fire Trail on a flight from New Jersey and I remember the customs guy asking if it was a complete bike or bike parts, because they attracted different import duties. Very obvious coming through customs with a big box with Marin Mountain Bikes written all over it. They even searched me !

I was in transit to Channel Islands so not applicable 'till I got home.

I just googled it to see if it still applies and found this:

http://www.bike-eu.com/facts-figures/eu-regulations/2340/import-duties-on-non-eu-bicycles-updated-for-2009.html
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Re: Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby travelling » Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:32 pm

I'm quite fortunate in that when I first come over I brought a bike with me and it's recorded on my flight booking/ticket so taking a bike back will not seem unusual

I also used the airline supplied bike box rather than the manufacturers bike box which cost me 15 quid which I still have

in the scheme of things i think it's not likely I will be stopped and charged extra BUT i will have money on me in case that happens
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Re: Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby blazingsaddles » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:18 pm

I'm fortunate to own both. If your main prioty is weight carrying capabilities then from my experience I'd say that the Thorn Sherpa is steadier under load. I weigh 105kilos and I've had 25kilos on the back wheel of each using the same rack type (Tubus Cargo) and I'd definately say that the Sherpa is steadier. I've not tried the Sherpa with lowriders but I have tried the LHT and I had a fair bit of fork wobble at low-medium speeds although I did have 15kilos on it which is the max that Tubus recommend, and in fairness probably too much for a steady ride.
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Re: Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby bikerwaser » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:58 am

I have a Thorn Sherpa and i'm extremely happy with it. The Sherpa frame is better quality to the LHT frame in that it's Cold drawn, double butted and heat treated.
I guess you get what you pay for.
I'm sure the LHT would be sufficient for most touring though. on thing i do like about the LHT is the longer chainstay.
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Re: Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby Monsieur » Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:52 pm

Can bikes such as LHT be bought over the web from the UK and then delivered to a UK address?
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Re: Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby mike_dowler » Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:09 pm

Does that price include sales tax?
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Re: Surly Long Haul Trucker or Thorn Sherpa

Postby T » Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:50 pm

Monsieur wrote:Can bikes such as LHT be bought over the web from the UK and then delivered to a UK address?

As far as I'm aware, Surly stopped selling complete bikes via online retailers in 2011. See here: http://surlybikes.com/blog/post/the_way_we_do_things .
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